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not content with ruining my cix account (average 100+ spams / day), forget ever trying to use the geocities (now yahoo) one, and 10+ daily on my main demon account, O2 just SMS spammed my phone "win a holiday to oz". Grrr...

If I ever meet a spammer... Nailgunning them to the floor before releasing the hungry rats on them is too good for them....

I agree 100% ++

Date: 2003-03-29 03:17 am (UTC)
ext_8559: Cartoon me  (south park me grey ankh)
From: [identity profile] the-magician.livejournal.com
But then I've mentioned the amount of spam I get before (around 150 a day that bypasses the Cix brightmail filter, plus over a thousand a day that gets stuck in the filter).

They are arriving so quickly that I can run mailwasher, clear the messages, and then re-run mailwasher immediately and find another 5-20 spams have arrived in that time ... how long before it takes as long to delete them as it takes them to arrive, at which point I'd have to be clearing spam 24 hours a day and still not keeping up ... we need better filtering at a higher level and we need revenge attacks that as soon as a spammer is positively identified they are taken off the air. I'd be very happy to see that spammers got their cars trashed, houses burned down etc. (yes, I'm pissed off by them) and while of course I'd never personally do anything like that, if (just if) an address arrived at my place for somewhere I could get to, it would be a total coincidence if something should occur ... grrr!

Re: I agree 100% ++

Date: 2003-03-30 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lproven.livejournal.com
Blimey, you must have flashed your email address around the place a bit...

I use Calypso for my Greymail account, but I only get a few dozen a week... It sucks 'em all down in seconds, I have a quick scan then bin the lot.

Date: 2003-03-29 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheepthief.livejournal.com
For Cix you can use the Brightmail trapper if you have the SUT account (or for a small fee if you use OUT). It's reasonably effective.

In addition to Brightmail I'm also using a Bayesian filter from http://popfile.sourceforge.net/. It doesn't actually get rid of spam but it can wrap it up and present it as an attachment. Perhaps it's not so useful if you're using dial-up. But I've been training it for a couple of weeks and it's now at 98% accuracy.

20% of my email is spam, which is a lot considering that I'm on some high-volume mailing lists. I've had about a thousand spams in the last 16 days.

As for violence... I'm sure someone must have been shot by now, in America at any rate. I know I'd like to.

Brightmail *good*

Date: 2003-03-29 02:56 pm (UTC)
ext_8559: Cartoon me  (south park me grey ankh)
From: [identity profile] the-magician.livejournal.com
Until Cix stops you getting email because there is too much spam in brightmail filter :-(

I had something like 40,000 messages in my brightmail when Cix cut me off (and a lot of them were the 41Kb messages that were all the rage for a few weeks)

I now keep my brightmail emptied every day (or at least several times a week), www.mail2web.com is your friend for that! Just give it [yourcixname]@greymail.cix.co.uk and your Cix internet password, and once it displays the first page of messages click on "delete all". I've just cleared 2700 messages out at a couple of minutes before 11pm on Saturday 29th of March. I'll leave it for a few days and report back on how many spams have arrived in there ...

Re: Brightmail *good*

Date: 2003-03-29 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheepthief.livejournal.com
I use a small utility called eremove - while I've not tried mail2web I invariably find web-based POP access clunky. That said, I've been using my greymail box recently to train a the Bayesian filter, with OE set to delete anything from the greymail server after retrieval (usually I keep email on my ISPs servers for a couple of days).

But yeah, Cix never did make it clear that both greymail and your normal mail count towards the server capacity limits.

Date: 2003-03-29 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lproven.livejournal.com
The main reason [livejournal.com profile] hazeii said he was killing his CIX a/c. :¬(

Enable Brightmail and switch to a smarter mail client that does filtering?

Date: 2003-03-30 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lproven.livejournal.com
Aww, shame.

Looked at Mailwasher?

TBH, I'd sooner move mail clients than muck around with an external spam filter... I need to get off Ameol anyway, really.

Date: 2003-04-07 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lproven.livejournal.com
Same here with Ameol. Buyt if it doesn't do what you need, and it plainly doesn't, then maybe it's time to move to something which does.

Email isn't just about sending/receiving, filtering, multiple accounts and so on any more. Any client worth a 30sec look can do that.

Now it needs smart spam filtering with heuristics, black and white listing, smart threading, selective format blocking (e.g. no HTML or strip text from HTML), integral anti-virus support, multiformat import/export, and so on.

take all them into account, the number of credible email clients shrinks from hundreds to a handful. I've looked at Mozilla/Netscape, Apple Mac OS X's Mail.app and The Bat. What I'd like it a cross-platform, faster Mail.app, really... or a MUCH faster Mac and the ability to disable some of the frills. But nothing is really close.

Date: 2003-03-30 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lproven.livejournal.com
And I meant to day - no, don't go!

Date: 2003-03-30 11:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vampwillow
adding info...

total spam to cix account in 1 1/2 years - two (total!)
average daily spam to other accounts - 120 (per day)
reason - cix email is never detailed as an email address, ie just as "XX on cix" so needs a RHB* to covert it and they'd have to understand what cix is and if they did that they are probably a cix user so wouldn't do it in the first place... hopefully.

Now as for nailgunning ..... ;-)

(* RHB - Real Human Being)

Date: 2003-03-30 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hazeii.livejournal.com
Trouble with spam is the amount you get seems like an exponential function of time. I'm moderately surprised my Cix account survived 15 years.

Thinking about it, though, there wasn't a serious problem with spam, Hotmail and MSN until a couple of years ago. Thanks Bill....thanks ever so.

Date: 2003-03-31 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aperrott.livejournal.com
Seem to be getting about 60+ a day on my Demon account right now. Most of them are the same message addressed to different users at the domain. :(

One of these days I'm going to set up my own mail server and only accept mail from addresses I've explicitly added to a list.....

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