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greg elkin ([personal profile] beermat) wrote2003-05-14 10:15 pm

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"Are you sure you wish to send 'Shortcut to Recycle Bin' to the Recycle Bin?"


Mu ha ha ha ha!

[identity profile] girl-thing.livejournal.com 2003-05-14 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha.

I actually snorted from laughing, when I read that.

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[identity profile] girl-thing.livejournal.com 2003-05-20 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like an excuse to touch someone.

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[identity profile] girl-thing.livejournal.com 2003-05-20 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
And I lost your mobile number, have a different phone to the one you sent the message to.

Pop me an email, or something, so I can get the correct number to you?

[identity profile] hazeii.livejournal.com 2003-05-14 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
You need to use Shift-Delete, that deletes things properly.

Alternatively, a few minutes with the Registry Editor and you can move the recycle bin anywhere you please.

First thing I did with the 'Explorer' shell was write a program to remove every icon from the desktop (Ctrl-Alt-C brings a cmd prompt).

Alternatively, fire up task manager and kill off 'explorer' (you can use Ctrl-shift-Esc to run it again if you want).


[identity profile] coxtrill.livejournal.com 2003-05-15 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
someone out of my own heart!!both my work computer and my home have the quickbars on the Start Bar and just the four icons XP and 98 wont let you move.

I'll have to have a go with the registry thing to remove the last four now. How do you do it?

[identity profile] coxtrill.livejournal.com 2003-05-15 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
shame I cant remember enough dos to work in it. I hate windows.

I dont really remember enough of it now to do the techie stuff I need to do in it. Mind I haven't used it (properly) in seven years.

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[identity profile] hazeii.livejournal.com 2003-05-16 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll dig out the details and post 'em in due course!

If you break it, you get to keep both pieces

[identity profile] hazeii.livejournal.com 2003-05-21 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
[The following are hacks I worked out under Win2k and NT4, given the general randomness of Windows they may or may not work under other versions]

Removing the Recycle bin from the desktop

[You might want to create a shortcut to the Recycle bin first, and save it somewhere.]

Run REGEDIT, and locate the following key:-

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\

There will be a few entries there, examine each one until you find the one whose entry is "Recycle Bin" (on a Win2k box here, it was "{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}". That's it! It'll disappear next time the desktop is refreshed, e.g. left-click on the background and hit F5.

Temporarily removing ALL icons, taskbars etc from the desktop

Hit Ctrl-Shift-Esc (or, Start, Run, "taskmgr") to bring up the Task Manager. Click on the "Processes" tab and find "explorer.exe" (not "iexplore.exe") in the first column. Click on this, and then hit the "End Process" button. All desktop icons and the taskbar will disappear (running applications will not be affected). If you minimise all applications, you'll be left with a completely blank screen.

You can then run applications via the Task Manager. Hit Ctr-Shift-Esc to bring it up, then run programs using File-New, or click the "Applications" tab and press the "New Task" button.

To get everything back to normal, just run "explorer" as a new task ("explorer" is the program that provides the desktop, browses files etc).


Showing/Hiding the desktop under program control

I hide all icons and task bars on my system using a program I wrote - basically it determines what programs are running, and "minimises" the one that controls the Desktop (which has the effect of making it invisible). It also assigns a specific hot-key combination to each running application, so you can always go direct to your application without having to Alt-Tab through the shifting horrors of Microsoft's automatic re-ordering.

As an aside, it's another example of the incredibly poor design of the Windows User Interface that the order of icons on the Task bar changes as you start and stop applications (ditto the Alt-tab order). It's much easier if things stay in the same position as they were when they were started. Look at it this way, imagine working on a desk where everytime you opened up a space, all the papers to your right re-arranged themselves to take up the space. Stupid, stupid, stupid....whether it's a task bar icon, a menu option, or my bike keys, I like things to stay where I put them.

[identity profile] coxtrill.livejournal.com 2003-05-15 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
either that or they are the blessing for the techie who works with people who keep "losing" their files for "no" reason. More than once I've rescued documents idiots work collegues have deleted "without doing anything, honest!".

[identity profile] coxtrill.livejournal.com 2003-05-21 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
worms have definately benn making holes in these peoples grey matter anyway.

[identity profile] coxtrill.livejournal.com 2003-05-22 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Definately. How else does everyone stupid come up with the same reasons?

[identity profile] coxtrill.livejournal.com 2003-05-23 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
No.... thats Before the tequilla. After the Tequilla... well
!!

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[identity profile] hazeii.livejournal.com 2003-05-16 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
"Proper" deletion isn't even possible these days, since it involves multiple writes of various patterns to the sector and drives these days migrate sectors about all the time.

Reminds me of being puzzled how Microsoft's idea of "format" didn't actually have anything to do with formatting.

Of course, where Windows is involved, there's no need to worry. Even if you pay every penny you've got to MS, Windows will still end up deleting everything on the disk sooner or later.

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[identity profile] hazeii.livejournal.com 2003-05-21 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
>something tells me that you're not a fan of Redmonds finest.

I always did hate plagiarists, convicted monopolists, marketers, liars, and those who write crap code.

5 out of 5 to Redmond, then.